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Old Jul 03, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41   #61
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Thats not true. Ive vanquished many areas with trial builds easily.
I mean Vanquishing the whole thing. Sure some bad builds can Vanq some easy area but not the whole game.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05   #62
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I mean Vanquishing the whole thing. Sure some bad builds can Vanq some easy area but not the whole game.
Even the whole game you DONT need structured builds to vanquish PvE is easy. Period.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31   #63
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I don't see the problem. If they don't ping, kick.

The behavior you guys are describing as 'elitism' is ignorance and idiocy, not elitism. I don't see anything wrong with actual elitism - that is, players who really are better that ask for build changes. People don't have any problems running builds they're told to run in PvP, I don't see why PvE would be any different.
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Old Jul 04, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39   #64
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Would never ping my build to anyone except maybe a member of my Guild.

There isn't really any point and its certainly none of their business.

Suppose they have a build you think is wrong, now you may think this gives you the right to lecture them on what makes a good build.

First of all who is the most experienced at GW you or them they may just know something about the build you don't.

Second if they change their build they will be inexperienced in using the new one so prob not as good as leaving them with a build they are happy with.

Third it leaves them open to abuse from idiots who will spam everyone else in the area with don't take the noob.

Most of those who criticize others builds seem to be of the I know what's best its on guildwiki type of player.
Its like knowing 3 chess openings and thinking your an expert, sorry you aren't.

I like experimenting with new builds and varying old ones and its none of your business.

btw when you ping your build back to them are you willing to listen to any comments on your build ? -------- Thought not
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I don't have a problem pinging most of the time. There are times I won't for one reason or another. And I don't mind when others ping theirs. If people give constructive criticism to each other, that's great. If they start calling others noobs and whatnot, those people are pretty sad, imo.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36   #65
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I don't see the problem. If they don't ping, kick.

The behavior you guys are describing as 'elitism' is ignorance and idiocy, not elitism. I don't see anything wrong with actual elitism - that is, players who really are better that ask for build changes. People don't have any problems running builds they're told to run in PvP, I don't see why PvE would be any different.
As you said, If some one gives a better build no problem, but that's rarely the case in PvE.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44   #66
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I'll point out the obvious flaws and let you guess the rest.

1. When you join a group, you ping your current build. Right. How hard can that be to change before or after you join?
2. Supposing your skills are pinged each time you change a skill? So if I was to completely rework my earth build to a fire one or vice versa, my skills would be pinged 5-7 times.
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Old Jul 05, 2008, 03:16 AM // 03:16   #67
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Any reason I can think of has been stated.
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Old Jul 06, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04   #68
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promotes elitist discrimination. If you don't like them then kick 'em, you always have that option.
I agree. Or, elitists need to stop PUGing, simple as that.

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Old Jul 06, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39   #69
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I don't see the problem. If they don't ping, kick.

The behavior you guys are describing as 'elitism' is ignorance and idiocy, not elitism. I don't see anything wrong with actual elitism - that is, players who really are better that ask for build changes. People don't have any problems running builds they're told to run in PvP, I don't see why PvE would be any different.
Whos to say that they're better? 9/10 times they're not.
They THINK they are but doesn't make it true.


OT if they don't want to ping thats their choice and it's you're choice to kick them or see what they can do.
If you don't like that then don't pug.
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